I downloaded a Mandriva One 2008.1 disc to try out the other day, and tried it on three systems:
What I found is that while Mandriva is definitely a good distribution from many points, it still has some pretty damning problems that rule it out for new users.
This isn’t meant to be an all-inclusive review, just a few highlights for what to expect if you’re familiar with Linux, and are considering Mandriva:
What I like about Mandriva One:
Well, it downloaded the KDE edition by default, I think I’ve made it quite clear I generally dislike KDE, but Mandriva managed to smooth over some of the things that Kubuntu or Suse, etc. do to anger me.
Kubuntu makes you go grab Firefox separately or else you’re left with Konqueror, Mandriva makes Firefox the default browser and it blends in well with KDE, something that other KDE distros don’t often worry about.
Mandriva had the good sense to stay with KDE 3.5.9 while KDE 4 is still iffy,
Overall, the Mandriva Control Center is nice, it’s like Yast2 in Suse, only with Yast there will be a skeleton found in front of your computer before the software installation is finished, Mandriva’s RPMdrake gets it done today.
MCC also gives you fine grained control over system security, user accounts…you name it, you’ve got it.
Mandriva One has most of the stuff you’ll need to get it running, codecs and drivers and such.
What I didn’t like about Mandriva One:
Defaults to Firefox 2, even though 3 has been out for some time.
Mandriva One is 32-bit only.
It isn’t very clear about what you need to do to obtain Broadcom wireless firmware, it includes b43-fwcutter, but can’t use the firmware it cuts, finally after poking around, I noticed it uses the deprecated bcm43xx-fwcutter.
Severe problems with the included Nvidia display driver, it cannot recognize display modes above 1280 x 1024, nvidia-settings appears crippled, nvidia-xconfig won’t help either.
I ended up removing the driver myself and installing 173.14 from Nvidia themselves, that worked
To get 64-bit support, you either have to use Mandriva Free and add foreign software repos (easyurpmi.zarb.org helps with this) to get your drivers and codecs, or purchase Mandriva PowerPack subscription for $60…the subscription is good for 12 months, and Mandriva releases about every six months, so you may sneak in a 3rd release if you sign up a month after the release you want is out.
Of course I can’t recommend jumping through hoops for this.
Love it or hate it, Ubuntu takes pretty much all the legwork out of getting a functional system, it’s become the closest thing to an Easy button for setting up a Linux system, I’m not saying this because I really like all the people behind Ubuntu or always agree with them, but they’ve become this current that is getting harder to swim away from.
No distribution stays on top for more than 5-6 years, there’s always a crack in their policies or procedures that a competitor can slip through and use as a one up.
I’m still not sure why Mandriva would go to such lengths to customize their Nvidia drivers, and otherwise make it hell to set your system up.
If you have an Nvidia card, and insist on Mandriva, get Mandriva Free. I was unable to get their bundled driver to behave on anything I used it with.
Unfortunately, this Mandriva One disc is targeted to new users who are evaluating whether to switch from Windows, there’s no reason for the driver issues to be a problem at all, it just looks bad on a promotional product when you’re asking the customer to consider paying for all your Powerpack goodies.
Some of these issues are what I’ve experienced in their last releases as well, so at this time I would probably still switch my primary systems to Debian if something happened to Ubuntu.
Mandriva One gets:
3/5, would be a 4.5 without the driver problems, and a 5 if there was a 64-bit disc.

KDE /angers/ you? You need some professional help, pal.
Comment by Michael — August 16, 2008 @ 11:50 am
“[...] only with Yast there will be a skeleton found in front of your computer before the software installation is finished [...]”
obviously neither you have tried opensuse 11.0
“[...]Mandriva had the good sense to stay with KDE 3.5.9 while KDE 4 is still iffy,[...]”
nor the latest release of KDE4 series, KDE 4.1. It’s not rock solid as 3.5.10 but very solid and full of features
Comment by Miguel — August 16, 2008 @ 12:03 pm
In my case Mandriva has been the only distro to set up my 19″ Xerox monitor with the correct refresh rate of 75Hz. Ubuntu and several of the others that I have tried insist on setting it to 50 Hz. So three cheers for Mandriva and their bundled driver.
Firefox 3 is available by checking the backports repository in the Mandriva Control center so this really isn’t an issue. (After all, 2008.1 Spring was released before FF3, so I think that it is all to the credit of Adam and the Mandriva team for getting into Backports so quickly). Also don’t forget that 2009 version is just around the corner and will incorporate FF3 as standard.
Comment by Linx — August 16, 2008 @ 12:43 pm
Mhhhhh, mhhhhhh.
Some clarifications :
1. Mandriva One KDE : please note that the Gnome version is also available :
ftp://ftp.free.fr/pub/Distributions_Linux/MandrivaLinux/official/iso/2008.1
ftp://ftp.free.fr/pub/Distributions_Linux/MandrivaLinux/official/iso/2008.1/mandriva-linux-one-2008-spring-GNOME-int-cdrom-i586.iso
2. 32bits only : you are wrong.
Free edition exists in 32bits AND 64bits in DVD :
ftp://ftp.free.fr/pub/Distributions_Linux/MandrivaLinux/official/iso/2008.1/mandriva-linux-free-2008-spring-dvd-i586.iso
ftp://ftp.free.fr/pub/Distributions_Linux/MandrivaLinux/official/iso/2008.1/mandriva-linux-free-2008-spring-dvd-x86_64.iso
Why only 32bits versions of One is proposed ? Easy, to no have too much ISO on mirrors.
3 differents ISO for One KDE due the language support. The same for One Gnome ( 3 ISO ).
1 ISO for Free DVD 32bits, 1 ISO for FRee DVD 64bits
1 dual arch mini ISO for minimal installation.
3 ISO for Free CD edition.
So why do Mandriva prefer to ship by default 32bits ?
– 32bits works on x86 64bits machines, the contrary is not true
– stuff like Flash have way better support in 32bits ( still no native 64bits Flash player from Adobe ) and you don’t need to mix 32bits apps and 64 bits to have some stuff working ( not efficient for memory and disk space )
– One can be installed on older computers ( PIV, K6-2 ), think about associations, third world countries with old computers.
– There are still no indications about the fact that 64bits will provide very good perf gains, sometimes it’s the contrary.
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=998&num=3
http://www.osnews.com/story/5768/Are_64-bit_Binaries_Really_Slower_than_32-bit_Binaries_/page3/
http://www.linux.com/feature/114024
64bits CPU are best for servers, and most of the time you will not nvidia/ATI graphic card in servers, or vesa or opensource driver is sufficient.
3. Firefox 2 vs Firefox 3 : Mandriva 2OO8 Spring have been release in April. Firefox 3 have been release in April, and on top of that have a big performance problem : http://lwn.net/Articles/283745/
I think that you can understand that Mandriva prefer to ship a stable and known to work software instead of a dev release of Firefox 3 with a big perf issue.
4. Broadcom : I do agree that Broadcom setup is not as easy it should be. Please note that drakconnect supports natively to configure the wireless card with ndiswrapper ( ndiswrapper packages installation, ability to browse and select the .sys file, ndiswrapper configuration )
5. Nvidia issue : strange … Normally XFdrake allow to select the resolution correctly. One confusing point sometimes is the fact that users sometimes select a fixed resolution monitor, and so after the driver ( and XFdrake ) will not accept a driver resolution which is superior to the screen resolution.
Maybe YOU had issues with the nvidia drivers as shipped on Mandriva One, but many others users had no issues. I’m always using mandrivba bundled Nvidia and ATI drivers without issues on 2 workstations and 5 computers. The others 54 computers have Intel chipsets.
6. proprietaries drivers are in Mandriva official repositories. Concerning codecs, it’s normal that Mandriva will not hosts patented codecs because of DMCA issues. Unfortunately the law is like this. Mandriva had one time copyrights name issues ( concerning the name Mandrake ), so you may understand that now they are really careful about this issues. Please note that Mandriva have out of the box MP3 support without the need to add third party applications because they have the licence.
Comment by FACORAT Fabrice — August 16, 2008 @ 1:33 pm
Correction : Firefox 3 have been released in June, so 2 months after Mandriva release : http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/3.0/releasenotes/
And yes, you say that there were other 64bits release ( Free, Powerpack ), and give you the explanation about the 32bits by default for One.
Comment by FACORAT Fabrice — August 16, 2008 @ 1:39 pm
@FACORAT Fabrice:
I pretty much need x86-64 support or else more than 2/3rds of my memory isn’t there, 32-bit Linux is just like 32-bit Windows in not supporting more than 2.8-3.2 GB of RAM, and MANY if not ALL of the decent off the shelf motherboards today already have support for 8-16 gigs.
I understand the whole “Pain in the ass to package it” deal, but if it doesn’t work, it doesn’t work.
As for bundled software, I looked around for Ktorrent and couldn’t find it? (sigh)
Maybe I missed it somewhere, but it’s not like Bittorrent needs another tacit admission that it’s illegal or something.
Firefox 3 does a lot of nice things that I’ve gotten used to, such as the Awesome Bar, the new memory manager, the session save feature, and the new bookmark layout, not to mention it renders faster, Firefox 3 is such an important upgrade that Ubuntu and Fedora shipped with Beta 5 and then updated everybody to the final release later.
Nvidia issue: On my Geforce 7300 on my older box, which drives a pretty run of the mill 17″ CRT, Mandriva can only do 1024 x 768, the monitor’s native resolution is 1280 x 1024.
On my Geforce 7800 GT, driving a 24″ widescreen LCD, who’s native resolution is 1680 x 1050, Mandriva limits it to 1280 x 1024.
On my ATI Radeon X1300, it works dandy.
Something is definitely wrong with the Nvidia driver that you’re packaging, or at least how you package it, it’s been like that for a couple years now, it’s trivial to rip that out and replace it with Nvidia’s package, but then you have to rip it back out and reinstall it every time there is a kernel update.
There’s places to get Xine plugins and Gstreamer plugins to support all your codecs, I know Mandriva/Fedora want you to pay the extortion to Fluendo, but I will never do that, because I really really don’t care, I have files, I want them to play, I think that since I’m doing it for compatibility, then I’m well within my rights.
That DMCA crap was bought and paid for by some of the slimiest corporate elements in the United States, it does nothing to serve the common good. (Much like most of our laws lately).
I know it’s not Mandriva’s fault, since they’re a much bigger target than I am, and they have to be a buttoned down company, but the phrase “We don’t support that…..DMCA” still makes my blood boil, basically saying “Move along, nothing to see here, this page has been taken down by the racketeering organizations in your local country”
Very little of my problems here are Mandriva’s doing, bugs happen, and the various RIAA-like organizations around the world pull the strings of politicians (who knew?).
Comment by Ryan — August 16, 2008 @ 7:22 pm